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JEWS Of Course! (Part 1)

October 14, 2011

In Cairo, Egypt this week, 25 Coptic Christians were murdered and 300 others were wounded by Moslems.  The Coptic Christians were simply participating in a peaceful protest regarding a Christian church that had been destroyed by … guess who … Moslems.  The Coptic Christians only crime?  Being Coptic Christians in a country that is most likely about to be taken over by Islamic extremists.

So what are some liberal Christian churches, liberal clegy and liberals in general in the United States talking about?

Why … JEWS, of course!

Sometimes when my nerves are calm enough, I take a peek at what the Liberal Aristocracy is babbling about regarding current issues (i.e. politics).

So take a look at this little pseudo-highbrow gem of a dialog amongst Armchair Liberal Analysts that I came across recently.

What’s it about?  JEWS of course!

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Jeff: (liberal clergyperson)  “On this one,* I respectfully disagree with President Obama. Israel was created by the UN and so Palestinians are within their rights to look to the UN for their own national aspirations. To defeat this resolution will play into the hands of Hamas. Indeed there is no shortcut to peace, and President Obama should show courage on this one.”

Greg: “For 50 years, the US has persecuted Palestine. Since the Oslo Accord, Israel continued building new towns on the West Bank, built a wall on Palestinian territory. Israel has no interest in peace whatsoever. The US should not stop Palestine from re-establishing their status as a nation.”

Timothy:   “But who is to determine the border ?  ‘Aye, there’s the rub.’ Can Palestine decide where borders are without Israeli agreement? Can Israel decide where its borders are without Palestinian agreement? I think the answer to each is ‘no.’  The application has to be vetoed. Abbas is simply trying a power play. It is not helpful.”

Greg:  “Simple: 1967 borders. Unfortunately, Israel intends to drive every single Palestinian off the West Bank to Gaza or someplace else. Then they’ll talk. The rest of the world is right on this. The U.S. is wrong.”

Jeff:  “Having just returned from Israel and Palestine [as a TOURIST], I have to say the Israelis have built ‘settlements’ that are really suburbs in areas that are clearly Palestinian by every international agreement. The 1967 border (the “green line”), as was pointed out to us by the Palestinians is vague in many places. Israel takes full advantage of that. The problem is Israel has no desire at all to negotiate with the Palestinians.  Instead they are building an apartheid state, enclosing the Palestinians behind a massive wall and fence. Entire cities like Bethlehem (and it is not ‘the little town of’) are completely enclosed, cut off, with a access controlled by Israeli soldiers. It breeds despair and that breeds violence. The UN resolution may be ‘helpful’ from an Israeli point of view, but to defeat it is to tell the moderates in Palestine that there is no hope, and it will with absolute certainty embolden the most radical and violent. Our government is being very dumb on this.”

Timothy:  “You can’t vote yes on a state without borders. I understand the tactical reason for trying to jumpstart the peace process that has yielded nothing after 30 years of American oversight. But Obama is right to threaten to veto (he won’t have to; he can red-tape it). The statehood proposal is absurd. Would you seat the Confederate States of America? Would you seat Algeria when it was still a department of France? Would you seat any number of screwed-up post-colonial hot zones where the guns are quiet because they’re being reloaded? No.”

Jeff:  “It may be absurd to you, but it is not to those setting behind a wall. They are looking for something to cling to — some affirmation that the world cares. To dash this is heartless and stupid. This is not an exercise in political science purity. It will not create a Palestinian state overnight. Or the next night. But it will give a glimmer of hope.”

Timothy:  “All true. Stipulated. No dispute. But lots of things sound good, feel good but aren’t good.”

Jeff:  “To turn this down is bad. Very, very bad. It will fuel Hamas, and there will be a third intifada and many people will suffer and die.  To pass it is dodging a bullet. A lot of bullets.”

Timothy:  “Hamas won’t support it because they don’t trust the Palestinian Authority. They’ll assassinate Abbas if he gets statehood and then negotiate with Israel. Israel knows that, the United States knows that and, I’m sure that Abbas knows that. This is the Middle East. Every choice is a bad choice. Kick this can down the road.”

Jeff:  “That is exactly my point. Hamas wants this defeated because it will prove their point — that there is no hope in negotiating with Israel or the U.S.  And you don’t get to kick this can down the road.”

Matilda:  “The original intent was two states: United Nations General Assembly Resolution 181 called for the partition of the British-ruled Palestine Mandate into a Jewish state and an Arab state. It was approved November 29, 1947. The resolution was accepted by the Jews in Palestine, yet rejected by the Arabs in Palestine and the Arab states. The concept needs to be revisited with the boundaries to be determined through negotiation. But Israel’s continued settlement of Palestinian land and the building of the wall has created a hostile world opinion. The US  appears to be Israel’s last friend and Israel has placed the US in a position to defend the undefensable.”

Timothy:  “Someone once said that it was the Palestinians’ sad fate to be victimized by history’s greatest victim. This is the Middle East.”

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First, let me say that trying to read through and comprehend the semi-language of Liberal Doublespeak is hard on the brain.

But I made it through and of course, 3/4 of this blather of wordiness is misleading and or false.  There’s nothing wrong with debate, of course.  And everyone has tbeir own opinions.  But Armchair Libs seem to have the annoying habit of believing that their “opinions” are FACTS.

So whilst in the real world, Coptic Christians (and whole bunches of other Christians as well) are being persecuted and slaughtered by Moslems, these nitwits are ignoring that and debating on airy-fairy hypothetical half-truths about Jews, Israel and so-called “palestinians.”   Well…not even HALF-truths….  This is the kind of squishy thinking that we’re up against people!!

Most libs seem to have a disability when it comes to hearing the Truth, but for the record, I feel it is my duty to do a little counter-jihad.  If an elitist lib is going to put garbage like the above out there, it’s up to the rest of us to clean it up.

1)  Greg says that the US has “persecuted Palestine for 50 years.”  I don’t know how this can be since there is not nor has there ever been a place called “Palestine.”

2)  Greg also says that “Israel has no interest in peace.”  Ha! Ha! Ha!  What a LOON!!!  Israel has bent over backwards to make peace with the dadgum Arabs.  Israel gave the Arabs Gaza and the Arabs elected a TERRORIST GROUP” to “govern” them.  And what does Israel get in return for Gaza???  Rockets!!!

3)  Greg also says that the US should “not stop the Palestinians from re-establishing themselves as a nation.”  “RE-ESTABLISHING”???  See # 1 — no such thing as “Palestine” EVER.  The land was an empty wasteland before the Jews re-settled there.  Here is what Mark Twain said about it in 1867:

“Palestine sits in sackcloth and ashes. Over it broods the spell of a curse that has withered its fields and fettered its energies. Where Sodom and Gomorrah reared their domes and towers, that solemn sea now floods the plain, in whose bitter waters no living thing exists –over whose waveless surface the blistering air hangs motionless and dead –about whose borders nothing grows but weeds, and scattering tufts of cane, and that treacherous fruit that promises refreshment to parching lips, but turns to ashes at the touch. Nazareth is forlorn; about that ford of Jordan where the hosts of Israel entered the Promised Land with songs of rejoicing, one finds only a squalid camp of fantastic Bedouins of the desert; Jericho the accursed, lies a moldering ruin, to-day, even as Joshua’s miracle left it more than three thousand years ago; Bethlehem and Bethany, in their poverty and their humiliation, have nothing about them now to remind one that they once knew the high honor of the leader’s presence; the hallowed spot where the shepherds watched their flocks by night, and where the angels sang Peace on earth, good will to men, is untenanted by any living creature, and unblessed by any feature that is pleasant to the eye. Renowned Jerusalem itself, the stateliest name in history, has lost all its ancient grandeur, and is become a pauper village; the riches of Solomon are no longer there to compel the admiration of visiting Oriental queens; the wonderful temple which was the pride and the glory of Israel, is gone, and the Ottoman crescent is lifted above the spot where, on that most memorable day in the annals of the world, they reared the holy cross. The noted Sea of Galilee, where Roman fleets once rode at anchor and the disciples of the leader sailed in their ships, was long ago deserted by the devotees of war and commerce, and its borders are a silent wilderness; Capernaum is a shapeless ruin; Magdala is the home of beggared Arabs; Bethsaida and Chorazin have vanished from the earth, and the “desert places” round about them where thousands of men once listened to the leader’s voice and ate the miraculous bread, sleep in the hush of a solitude that is inhabited only by birds of prey and skulking foxes. Palestine is desolate and unlovely. And why should it be otherwise? Can the curse of the Deity beautify a land?”

© October 2011 by Agent Infidel

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